more midi tools!

Let me know if you're lacking a module or other feature to get the job done
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Re: more midi tools!

Post by francisharmany » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:49 am

Ok so I've been testing.

The same message is sent. So no difference in speed. Only for the big 'scratch' wheel it sends note-on/note-off when you start/stop turning.

Indeed the patch has problem to keep up.....

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Re: more midi tools!

Post by sharc » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:32 pm

It's probably the diodes that are slowing it down. I'll see if I can streamline it at all

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Re: more midi tools!

Post by francisharmany » Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:24 am

To get the LEDs working on the DJM 101
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I used the Decimator followed by flexor follow (on the audio signal). Then I feed it to multi-mo. It seemed to generated much less output and it didnt flood my system with CC. I have not tried to replace flexor follower with any other modules, but perhaps something similar can be used for the encoders. I am going to try tonight and tomorrow!

Also could you test this:
- convert audio signal into conrol signal
- feed it into multi-mo
I get all kinds of weird midi messages if I do this.....

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Re: more midi tools!

Post by sharc » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:54 pm

Most of the async control inputs on BC modules are unipolar (+ve). Although some of them (mix module level controls for instance) give useful results when fed with a -ve control signal, the Multi-Mo isn't one of those. It spits out garbage MIDI data in response to negative values.

I could have added some protection against this but didn't because as you can see in the following patch, there are several ways to either convert a bipolar signal to unipolar or block negative values. These are just a few examples. In each case I've used a bipolar constant val to monitor the control output. There are plenty other ways to approach this. Which solution fits best largely depends on what the control source is :)
Sync2Async control examples1.zip
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Re: more midi tools!

Post by sharc » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:05 pm

Async control inputs generally don't respond well at all to audio rate modulation. Options to deal with audio rate sources (other than the envelope follower) include using a Control Smooth S module which acts like a lag processor, sample & hold module triggered by an LFO or an audio trigger module. The Sidechain output on the BC Dynamics modules can also give some useful results.

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Re: more midi tools!

Post by JoPo » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:01 am

I have to say that I've found the "block negative value" solution ones ! 8-)
Alone ! By myself ! Without help ! Me !
What you think of that ? Mmm ?
And it worked !

I agree with the title of this thread !
Thanks for the tips ! I download the jpg !

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Re: more midi tools!

Post by Spielraum » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:45 pm

cool tools...
lieben dank!

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